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JC Anderson
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.08 01:16:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:mkint wrote:Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk? The guys that turned themselves in only got permabanned.
Yeah I don't think many people realize that it IS giving them a break by letting them off with a permaban.
The alternative was getting the police and courts involved. |
JC Anderson
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1092
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Posted - 2014.05.08 01:18:00 -
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mkint wrote:Marcus Trial wrote:mkint wrote:Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk? The soft response CCP took here was to ban the guy instead of letting the police investigate the matter any further. So the lesson is to be better at not getting caught? It's not like any government is going to extradite someone to iceland over vandalism. Vandalism laws are barely even enforced in most US cities, unless there's assault charges involved too. I mean, it's not like there's never going to be real world crimes involved in EVE ever again. I would definitely not mind seeing the guys beat black and blue over it, but bruises fade, but permabans are forever.
The monument is the property of the city, as CCP donated it to them. It wasn't simply vandalizing CCP's private property.
Also consider the money that went into this. The Artist they hired is NOT a nobody and is fairly well known in the art world.
Finally, in one of Falcon's updates he did mention that people personally visited CCP HQ with info on their alliance mate, and this was well after Fanfest was over.
So I wouldn't be surprised if the guilty party was a local (local to CCP) eve player. |
JC Anderson
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1092
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Posted - 2014.05.08 01:26:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:What steps has CCP taken (or plans to take) to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument?
Not to mention that it's in the harbor and exposed to the elements. :/
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JC Anderson
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1093
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Posted - 2014.05.08 04:22:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Trish Tokila wrote:mkint wrote:Hmm... some of the guys involved turned themselves in, and still got perma-banned? Not condoning what they did in any way whatsoever, but doesn't such a harsh response disincentivize people in the future from admitting to what they've done while drunk? Instead of facing international criminal charges, potentially spending time in real-person jail, and outrageous fines to replace this, the player can no longer play this online video game. Not only that, but CCP won't tell the community who to lynch. Yeah, he's quite lucky that CCP has taken a lighter approach on this. A much more heavy fisted approach would not be out of line in this scenario. Remember, he didn't blow someone's spaceship up without their consent. He's committed actually serious crime. In a world that's actually real whether we want it to be or not. Uh, you might want to read what Falcon said again - he said any police action would not be discussed. He didn't say they weren't charged/fined/jailed/etc etc etc
Well in the previously thread he did say he was giving a chance to the individuals involved, inviting them to come forward in order to avoid the greater consequences.
I took that as saying, it's your decision if you want the authorities involved or not.
Then again, no way to know for sure. |
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